Satisfied with their baptism and reluctant to join the Mennonites, Helwys and a small band excluded Smyth and over twenty of his followers. They did so with regret and with many affirmations of love and respect. Yet they sensed clearly, as Smyth apparently did not, that despite similarities on baptism they had more fundamental differences with the Mennonites. Helwys urged the Mennonites to use caution concerning Smyth’s application. Apparently they did, for Smyth was not received during his lifetime.